A year ago I took Witch King/Sully to Clash in the meta-that-was; now, everything has changed but my tendency to bring filthy meta lists. And so it was that I headed up to Sydney on Friday afternoon, with a carry-case full of Ugluk’s Scouts and a lot of excitement for the weekend to come.
Also, my spouse suggested that I title this article 'Putting my meat back on the menu at Clash.' Let me know in the comments if the more risqué title was the way to go.
Tournament Format
The format this year was as down-the-line competitive as it comes: 6 rounds at 600 points, with 2 hours apiece, in which all 6 standard scenarios would be played in a random order. No frills, just a straight test of competitive skill. Exactly what the doctor ordered!
Listbuilding
I went back and forth between quite a few different lists over the course of preparing for this event. Three different Depths of Moria combos were considered, as well as Men of the West, Army of the White Hand, and (of course) the Eagles. But in the end, I felt that there was nothing quite as consistent and powerful as my beloved Uruks, so it was time for Ugluk’s Scouts to make their second tournament appearance (if you don’t count this event from way back in the day)…
I
talked about this list a lot in my last tournament report here, where it
carried me to an undefeated finish through some tough games. I’ve also got two
separate tactics articles coming out for the faction in the coming weeks, so I
won’t spend too much time discussing the list here.
In
short, it’s got incredible numbers, huge killing power, great shooting and
mobility, and way more tricks than might first appear. It’s a dominant
list in certain scenarios (sometimes literally), and has excellent tools in all
the others. It hard-counters some lists and has play into just about
everything, and there’s a reason that it was one of the most popular lists at
the event.
With
my army all sorted, and almost no hobbying required, I had time to fit in a
whopping 45 practice games with the list before the event. A big thank
you to everyone who put up with game after game of being swarmed by 48 Orcs and
Uruks, it made all the difference against the tough games of this weekend.
Meta analysis
Mountain Goat Gaming made an excellent list review video over on their channel (it’s shorter than their last one, because they didn’t have me yapping away on it), but I naturally supplemented it with my own spreadsheet. Some big take aways were a total lack of Army of the White Hand and Eagles, alongside a huge showing from Halls of Thranduil (unsurprising), Ugluk’s Scouts (even less surprising) and Battle of Fornost (quite the shock!).
Total Eagle numbers were down from 44 at Cancon to 3 at Clash, despite similar player numbers. Part of this was undoubtedly due to the relentless bullying campaign in the classic pre-Clash meme competition, which also seems to have driven down Dale numbers. Many a joke was made this weekend about the effectiveness of bullying in producing positive social outcomes, all of which were made a little bit less tasteful by the event taking place in a school. Never change, MESBG community, never change.
After
a 3-hour drive up to Sydney on Friday evening, I was staying with friends Pat
and Katt, plus the same Gladstone-based Callan that I faced in my first ever tournament. All four of us were attending the event, with Pat bringing
all-cav Mirkwood, Katt Radagast’s Alliance, and Cal borrowing Pat’s
Balrog-and-boys list as a nice and simple hammer. Dinners and drives to the
event with these 3 made for a very funny dynamic, and the post-game discussions
were excellent.
Alas, there was a mixed commitment to punctuality amongst the group, so we arrived a little late on Day 1. As such, I was facing the ringer, fielding…
Round 1: Depths of Moria in
Supplies, 17:6
I’d
faced Liam before in an extremely silly game of doubles at Cancon, in
which Pat and I had 14 monsters and he and Jack had 3 Mumaks. Bonkers stuff.
This
time around he was running a legitimately-strong Moria list with the Watcher
and 4 full warbands of Goblins, but with the stipulation that he simply would
not spend Might points. There were a few points throughout the game where I made
calls on the assumption that surely he’d call the Move this time, but
Liam stuck to his guns and ended the event with 54 unspent Might. Great stuff,
and a really interesting way to run a ringer list that I actually quite
appreciated.
In any case, Supplies is always an excellent scenario for Ugluk’s Scouts (probably their best), and against a list with no banners and slow models it’s a very winnable matchup. I managed to shoot out Liam’s leader early, but my initial complacency was somewhat complicated by the board being crisscrossed by shallow water and the Watcher getting some comical boosts from it.
I’d been doing an
excellent job of shutting it down (turns out that Fearless warriors with 8”
Movement are very useful for stopping the Watcher from rampaging), but its
ability to insta-kill a model within 6” of a water feature and then return to
the depths made it hilariously mobile.
In
the end, it did manage to find its way onto an objective in my backfield and
scare off the Orc defending it, but by this stage I had broken through to the
right objective and destroyed it. I then made the call to send Ugluk Combatting
through a gap in the Goblin line with some buddies, destroying one last supply
on the left. This had required me to leave him in a slightly-exposed position,
but he had a Might point left and could only be charged by 3 Goblins. So
naturally, Liam scored 3 VPs for leader kill that turn. #justuglukthings
This
was a delightful game, and Liam really did play it very well (with the obvious
caveat that not spending Might points is an unconventional strategy). I think
the ringer approach of having an experienced player use a fairly meta list and
play to win (but with a huge handicap) is actually really clever, and I enjoyed
it a lot. 10/10, would play ZZZ Gumbie again.
Round 2: Rivendell Knights in
Reconnoitre, 1:7
Up
next was Kenneth in Reconnoitre, which was a somewhat unfortunate matchup for
me. To start with, his Rivendell Knights are at least as fast as me, and his
double Wrath of Bruinen combo is devastating against my D4 horde.
Moreover,
all-cavalry matchups are frequently very swingy, which is the opposite of what
you want in the early rounds of an event at which you’re hoping to do well. As
such, it was likely that whoever won the most Move-offs and Priority rolls was
going to absolutely stomp the other player. I like to play on the assumption
that my opponent will get the edge in that sort of thing, so I would
be gunning it for the board edge at top speed in order to hopefully sneak a group
of models off before I got quartered.
Things
started as poorly as they could have, with both of Kenneth’s warbands in on the
first turn and all four of mine rolling beneath a 4+. It didn’t feel good, but
I ended up burning half of my Might just to get 3 of them on the field: every
turn that a warband is off the field meant that the lines would clash 6-8”
closer to my board edge, which I just couldn’t afford if I was going to get
models off here.
Shooting was a mixed experience, with a couple of clutch kills for me (including on a Knight cantering off down my flank) and some heavy attrition back.
I did manage to get off some cheeky initial charges with Scouts after Kenneth forgot their extra movement speed, but a lost Move-off and some devastating Wrath of Bruinens and I was haemorrhaging models.
I split things into three separate clashes, with
Ugluk and a band trying to break through a trio of pinned Knights, while Elrond
carved through me in the centre and Arwen got clutch natty-six after
clutch-natty six to hang in on the right flank for far longer than I’d hoped.
I pulled off some great plays, including a Heroic Combat pile-on that let me tear through Arwen’s flank and set things up to Break Rivendell. I also did a great job of using lone warriors to perfectly block off 4” gaps, such that a cavalry base couldn’t quite fit through on either side.
But things continued to go against me a bit faster than I could handle, with only one Priority win after the first turn and a frustrating number of small catastrophes. Ugluk and two warriors went into a Knight only to lose the fight, have Ugluk be wounded, and have him fail his Fate roll, ready to die next turn and remove my ability to hold my army together.
My Scout Captain was a frustrating half-inch off getting off the
board, before both he and my Orc Captain on that flank fled to finally leave me
quartered. I managed to do enough damage to Break the Elves and prevent them
getting more than one model off, but overall it ended up as an unfortunate 7:1
minor loss.
I
never like to blame dice for losses, because it isn’t fair to either an
opponent or yourself. Kenneth played a perfectly solid game, and experienced
the occasional bit of bad luck himself throughout the battle (particularly Elrond
doing classic hero things and being dismounted by two Uruks). I also made a
couple of tiny positioning errors in places, although overall I think I played
a very tight game.
In
the end though, this sort of matchup tends to be very swingy. I didn’t get to
move first on the turns I needed to against a F5 cavalry list with double
casters, and the classic Recon deployment rolls meant I didn’t have the
resources to mitigate it. I quartered about 6” too far from the enemy board
edge to have a shot, and sometimes that’s just how it goes.
In any case, I was sure that this was just the start of my submarine to the top, so it was on to Round 3…
Round 3: Battle of Fornost in Fog
of War, 15:0
That
submarine was apparently starting off with Battle of Fornost, one of the most
popular lists at the event (as will be made very apparent in Day 2’s writeup!).
I quite like my matchup into the classic Earnur/Glorfindel buddy-cop combo, as
their model count puts them at a huge disadvantage in the grind and their
heroes don’t have any amazing targets for chopping through.
Fog
did complicate this somewhat, as my path to victory was likely to run straight
through Will’s Glorfindel (or at least Asfaloth, his horse, who is a hero this
edition; I learned things from the last time I played this army in Fog!).
Protecting my heroes is normally not too hard, but actually killing a F8 hero
with Lord of the West is always going to be a bit challenging!
The initial turns were very cagey, with me taking advantage of my superior shooting to draw Will to me, chip down some models and strip Asfaloth’s Fate.
The
approach into this army is always difficult when you’re down on model count and
shooting, and Will made a few small positioning errors that let me swarm his
two warriors blocks and tag up Earnur with a surprise Scout move. It doesn’t
matter how many times you tell people that half your warriors move 8”, they’ll
always instinctively underestimate it at least once.
At this point, I think it was clear to both of us that if Will played a ‘standard’ game, I would crush his warriors and probably win 13:5 (break/unbroken, both of us protecting our heroes, and probably me getting my terrain piece and him not getting his). The onus was on Will to make something happen to avoid a major loss, so he made something happen.
In
one of those beautiful moves that makes up for any number of prior positioning
errors, Glorfindel ran 12” around a ruin, through a doorway that was just wide
enough for Asfaloth and into two spear supports, off whom he Combatted another
12” round another ruin and through another just-wide-enough
doorway into one of my Orc Captains, who got promptly ridden down. I’d picked
this Captain to protect, and he’d thus been a full 6 rows behind the
frontlines, but that was no protection from Glorfindel suddenly appearing
behind me! It was technically a positioning error on my part to have not blocked
off this route, but honestly I think I could have played this game a hundred
times and not spotted that angle. It was beautiful to watch, and I wasn’t even
(too) mad.
That
left us with a clutch Move-off, with Glorfindel burning his last Might to win
it and slam straight into Ugluk. I called the Strike and poured a heap of other
models into the combat, but I was mostly hoping he just didn’t get the natural
six he needed. He got it (a roughly 60% chance), but I had managed to
Strike up to F8 and get my own 6, so there was a chance. I rolled the clutch 1
and the Elven-made roll-off went my way, with the Orcs and Uruks dismounting
and wounding Glorfindel before Ugluk put a crisp 4 wounds straight onto him to
bring down the Lord of the West. Sometimes, it’s better to be lucky than good.
If
I lose that fight (and thus Ugluk) then I do think it was still quite plausible
for me to win this game. Glorfindel was Mightless in my backfield, and this
list is really good at killing Mightless and isolated heroes. But it was
nonetheless an enormous swing, and one that basically sealed the game for me.
Earnur and his warriors put up a heroic fight but eventually succumbed, and the
two Knights on the flank weren’t quite able to get to Will’s terrain
feature before my tide of Orcs and Uruks dragged them down.
This
was a really great game, and Will was an excellent opponent. The Glorfindel
move obviously went catastrophically wrong, and was inherently pretty
risky, but I think it showed a heap of skill to pull off. Even spotting the
opening required some excellent positional play, but more important was the
strategic sense that the risk needed to be taken. If Will didn’t make some big
plays then I was going to win the game; therefore, big plays needed to be made,
no matter how risky. This sort of strategic sense is exactly what you need to
do well at events, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Will on the top tables
sometime soon.
After
that delightful end to the day, it was off to the social night. Huge Melbourne
and Queensland contingents had made the trek to the event, and it was
delightful catching up with them all. None of the Ugluk’s Scouts had gone
undefeated, interestingly, despite being played by some very experienced players,
but a few of the people in my circle were on the up-and-up: my practice partner
Ned was on 3:0 with his Reclamation, showing that there is more to MESBG than
getting swamped by my Ugluk’s Scouts, while Cal had come to the realisation
that his fun little Balrog list is actually a hyper-competitive powerhouse. I’d
thought his pre-event dreams of wooden spoon were a little unrealistic, and his
initial 3:0 certainly vindicated that view.
The
company was delightful, the food was pretty good, and we all managed to make it
out of the place without getting stabbed (something that felt
concerningly-plausible at times). Another solid drive back to Pat and Katt’s
place and we were zonked, crashing at a surprisingly-reasonable hour in the
end.
We’ll
leave our tale there for the moment, because I know that 6000-word reports are
a bit much for most people. But do let me know in the comments: would you
rather two-day events be covered in two parts, or would they be more readable
in one big report? The latter would honestly be easier for me (I find the
formatting and sharing of articles by far the least-enjoyable part of blogging;
writing is the easy bit!), but this blog is only partly for me, so I want to
make it as readable as possible.
Until
next time, may you always win the Priority rolls you need against all-cavalry
lists!
Ugluk's Scouts!!! Looking forward to seeing Day 2!
ReplyDeleteIt's such a fun list! So glad I took them in the end
DeleteGreat writeup! Good to know self-policing works - in the Mid-Atlantic in the US, we've just decided to ban Eagles from most events, although this is resisted by some. I say you should go for one big article rather than the part 1 and 2 - the writing is very engaging, and I'm always left a little miffed waiting for more. Still, there are probably visibility benefits of putting more articles out there.
ReplyDeleteSelf-policing apparently worked extremely well! One big article seems to be the consensus view, so I'll lean towards that in future. Very glad I asked!
DeleteLove the write up, and I don't mind the length (as i chatted to you briefly about at clash), I'm very nterested in what your Men of the West list would have been as the only runner of that list, and if it would have differed from mine!
ReplyDeleteThe longer format definitely seems to be winning all the votes so far!
DeleteAs far as Men of the West goes, I'm hardly a faction expert, so take me with many grains of salt here (although I think the army is super cool and I'm thinking I might experiment with it at an event sometime soon). If I was running it myself, I think there are three different directions I might have taken it:
First, and the simplest, I would have considered dropping Legolas' horse to upgrade most of the line to WoMT. You're slowing down your killing a little and reducing his flexibility (although increasing his ranged output to compensate), but you're removing the weakpoint of the list entirely. 26 models is low regardless of how tough they are, but at least at F4/D6-7 they're not going to instantly crumble.
Second option would be swapping Legolas for Eomer on horse. This might have required dropping the banner to keep the numbers viable, and you definitely lose a lot of ranged punch, but having two really hitty combat heroes is definitely nice. I probably wouldn't lean to this, but it's tempting.
The third option would be ditching the banner, the horses and a pile of troops and getting Gwaihir and maybe even Gimli as well. At that stage you're effectively playing an all-hero list with some warriors to spear support, in a similar way to Erebor Reclaimed sometimes. I don't think this is as forgiving a list to play, but I could actually see it working reasonably well in the hands of a good player.
Overall, I think my first option is what I'd lean to. I may be biased from facing them a lot with Ugluk's Scouts, but the WoMT upgrade feels worth every penny in a list like this, and I'd be looking to get that wherever I can afford it
Hi Sharbie, I completely agree with the three different directions. As a big fan of Eomer last edition, it hurt me to not take him this time around, and it was mainly because of a few things highlighted already - removing the banner/ cutting numbers, since i wanted 24min for the nice quarter and break, and banner for vps since i knew i would want it. The other was because i thought we would have more Eagles, and the last time i played against them i was kited for an hour as they ran 13" away from my Erebor Reclaimed - not doing that again!
DeleteI skipped Gwahir just because I don't own an eagle, but I also enjoy Elessar on a mount. Thanks for the reply, was interesting to see your idea of motw and can't wait to see more write-ups!
I like the Risque title, but is it in brand for you?
ReplyDeleteTwo part reports are pretty good 👍
Your assessment of the Fiddler is accurate, it used to be one of the roughest venues - but has probably lost some of it's bite
It definitely isn't, which is why it gets to be an off-hand comment rather than the title haha
DeleteThe Fiddler was fun, but definitely still had some of its classic edge. I've heard it used to be much rougher though, so I'm glad it was a little more toned down for us!
More than happy to read one big blog to be honest, but on the flip side I’d imagine that people are more likely to spot that a new one is up if it’s up in two halves - two chances for the algorithms to let us know!
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